TELSTAR 12

[Rob MacMillan]

If anyone has the the time, could they confirm whether 20 & 21 on
this list below work?

20=11630,H,1250
21=11632,H,1250

Best
Rob

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http://www.kingofsat.net/dl.php?pos=15.0W

; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]

[ regular programming]
3=10999,H,2170 - encrypted

6=11060,H,18386 - nothing
7=11124,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
8=11150,H,18386 - upc - encrypted

13=11505,H,6620
14=11519,H,3744 - DAD5- NBC/MSNBC
15=11530,H,6111
16=11534,H,15000

18=11568,H,3426 - BYU

20=11630,H,1250
21=11632,H,1250



25=12577,H,13021 - ADTH gone

27=12594,H,6510
28=12595,H,31830
29=12608,H,19277 - ADTH - VOA / Persian / PowerTV / MAC /
TZUCHI
30=12616,H,6510
31=12643,H,3256

33=12733,H,1400

; [ feed frequencies by satelliweb.com (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]

39=11520,H,3745
40=11525,H,1500 - DAD4 - not in use for a month
41=11530,H,6111
42=11566,H,3425

45=11648,H,6620

47=11669,H,5632

49=11690,H,6620

51=12595,H,6510

; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]

[Donaldson-Selby Gavin]

I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.

Gavin

Post by Rob MacMillan
If anyone has the the time, could they confirm whether 20 & 21 on
this list below work?
20=11630,H,1250
21=11632,H,1250
Best
Rob
-----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------
http://www.kingofsat.net/dl.php?pos=15.0W
; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]
[ regular programming]
3=10999,H,2170 - encrypted
6=11060,H,18386 - nothing
7=11124,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
8=11150,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
13=11505,H,6620
14=11519,H,3744 - DAD5- NBC/MSNBC
15=11530,H,6111
16=11534,H,15000
18=11568,H,3426 - BYU
20=11630,H,1250
21=11632,H,1250
25=12577,H,13021 - ADTH gone
27=12594,H,6510
28=12595,H,31830
29=12608,H,19277 - ADTH - VOA / Persian / PowerTV / MAC /
TZUCHI
30=12616,H,6510
31=12643,H,3256
33=12733,H,1400
; [ feed frequencies by satelliweb.com (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]
39=11520,H,3745
40=11525,H,1500 - DAD4 - not in use for a month
41=11530,H,6111
42=11566,H,3425
45=11648,H,6620
47=11669,H,5632
49=11690,H,6620
51=12595,H,6510
; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
21:29:34 ]

[Rob MacMillan]

Thanks a lot. Did you get the artifacts problem fixed?

Best
Rob

"Donaldson-Selby Gavin" <keen-***@telkomsa.net> wrote in
message news:boc64q$auj$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.
|
| Gavin
|
|
| "Rob MacMillan" <***@remove-me.mighty.co.za> wrote in
message
| news:bobn73$ovt$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| > If anyone has the the time, could they confirm whether 20 &
21 on
| > this list below work?
| >
| > 20=11630,H,1250
| > 21=11632,H,1250
| >
| > Best
| > Rob
| >
|

Post by Rob MacMillan
---------------------------------------------------------------

--
| > ----------------
| >
| > http://www.kingofsat.net/dl.php?pos=15.0W
| >
| > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| > [ regular programming]
| > 3=10999,H,2170 - encrypted
| >
| > 6=11060,H,18386 - nothing
| > 7=11124,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| > 8=11150,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| >
| > 13=11505,H,6620
| > 14=11519,H,3744 - DAD5- NBC/MSNBC
| > 15=11530,H,6111
| > 16=11534,H,15000
| >
| > 18=11568,H,3426 - BYU
| >
| > 20=11630,H,1250
| > 21=11632,H,1250
| >
| >
| >
| > 25=12577,H,13021 - ADTH gone
| >
| > 27=12594,H,6510
| > 28=12595,H,31830
| > 29=12608,H,19277 - ADTH - VOA / Persian / PowerTV / MAC /
| > TZUCHI
| > 30=12616,H,6510
| > 31=12643,H,3256
| >
| > 33=12733,H,1400
| >
| > ; [ feed frequencies by satelliweb.com (c)
2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| > 39=11520,H,3745
| > 40=11525,H,1500 - DAD4 - not in use for a month
| > 41=11530,H,6111
| > 42=11566,H,3425
| >
| > 45=11648,H,6620
| >
| > 47=11669,H,5632
| >
| > 49=11690,H,6620
| >
| > 51=12595,H,6510
| >
| > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| >
|
|

[Donaldson-Selby Gavin]

Unfortunately not. I did a lot of work fine tuning the dish - even took
the Ku elbow off! Other channels are coming in strongly though.

Strangely enough the picture seems to show a lot less artifacts if
I have the menu system up on the receiver - Manhatten DSR-5500CI.
I have no idea why.

In this age of digital satellite is it still possible for broadcasters
to use
a half transponder?

Regards

Gavin

Post by Rob MacMillan
Thanks a lot. Did you get the artifacts problem fixed?
Best
Rob
| I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.
|
| Gavin
|
|
message
| > If anyone has the the time, could they confirm whether 20 &
21 on
| > this list below work?
| >
| > 20=11630,H,1250
| > 21=11632,H,1250
| >
| > Best
| > Rob
| >
|

Post by Rob MacMillan
---------------------------------------------------------------

--
| > ----------------
| >
| > http://www.kingofsat.net/dl.php?pos=15.0W
| >
| > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| > [ regular programming]
| > 3=10999,H,2170 - encrypted
| >
| > 6=11060,H,18386 - nothing
| > 7=11124,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| > 8=11150,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| >
| > 13=11505,H,6620
| > 14=11519,H,3744 - DAD5- NBC/MSNBC
| > 15=11530,H,6111
| > 16=11534,H,15000
| >
| > 18=11568,H,3426 - BYU
| >
| > 20=11630,H,1250
| > 21=11632,H,1250
| >
| >
| >
| > 25=12577,H,13021 - ADTH gone
| >
| > 27=12594,H,6510
| > 28=12595,H,31830
| > 29=12608,H,19277 - ADTH - VOA / Persian / PowerTV / MAC /
| > TZUCHI
| > 30=12616,H,6510
| > 31=12643,H,3256
| >
| > 33=12733,H,1400
| >
| > ; [ feed frequencies by satelliweb.com (c)
2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| > 39=11520,H,3745
| > 40=11525,H,1500 - DAD4 - not in use for a month
| > 41=11530,H,6111
| > 42=11566,H,3425
| >
| > 45=11648,H,6620
| >
| > 47=11669,H,5632
| >
| > 49=11690,H,6620
| >
| > 51=12595,H,6510
| >
| > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c) 2003-11-05
| > 21:29:34 ]
| >
| >
|
|

[Rob MacMillan]

With my cheap decoder, I'm sure it has something to do with the
PCR. I might be making a fool of myself as this is a bit above my
head, so this is just speculation. PCR stands for program clock
reference and is what keeps the sound and video together
(lipsyncing) Very minte changes to the PCR do apparently cause
distortion and screen blanking. The decoder picking up NTSC with
a higher frame rate, when put in PAL mode with a lower frame rate
has these symtoms.

I say this as it works fine in NTSC mode for me, but not in PAL.

SCPC signals don't use a full transponder, and are used for feeds
like this one. DSNG vans and different sources from different
locations can then use the same transponder. SCPC signals have
guard bands which lessen the effiency but stop the various
sources interfering with each other. I think most of T12 use
half a transponder as the bandwidth is 54Mhz.

While this is how I think it works, I could be talking a lot of
rubbish.

Rob


"Donaldson-Selby Gavin" <keen-***@telkomsa.net> wrote in
message news:boe575$q3j$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| Unfortunately not. I did a lot of work fine tuning the dish -
even took
| the Ku elbow off! Other channels are coming in strongly though.
|
| Strangely enough the picture seems to show a lot less artifacts
if
| I have the menu system up on the receiver - Manhatten
DSR-5500CI.
| I have no idea why.
|
| In this age of digital satellite is it still possible for
broadcasters
| to use
| a half transponder?
|
| Regards
|
| Gavin
|
|
| "Rob MacMillan" <***@remove-me.mighty.co.za> wrote in
message
| news:bocr82$s6b$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| > Thanks a lot. Did you get the artifacts problem fixed?
| >
| > Best
| > Rob
| >
| > "Donaldson-Selby Gavin" <keen-***@telkomsa.net> wrote in
| > message news:boc64q$auj$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| > | I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.
| > |
| > | Gavin
| > |
| > |
| > | "Rob MacMillan" <***@remove-me.mighty.co.za> wrote in
| > message
| > | news:bobn73$ovt$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| > | > If anyone has the the time, could they confirm whether 20
&
| > 21 on
| > | > this list below work?
| > | >
| > | > 20=11630,H,1250
| > | > 21=11632,H,1250
| > | >
| > | > Best
| > | > Rob
| > | >
| > |
| >

Post by Rob MacMillan
---------------------------------------------------------------

| > --
| > | > ----------------
| > | >
| > | > http://www.kingofsat.net/dl.php?pos=15.0W
| > | >
| > | > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c)
2003-11-05
| > | > 21:29:34 ]
| > | >
| > | > [ regular programming]
| > | > 3=10999,H,2170 - encrypted
| > | >
| > | > 6=11060,H,18386 - nothing
| > | > 7=11124,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| > | > 8=11150,H,18386 - upc - encrypted
| > | >
| > | > 13=11505,H,6620
| > | > 14=11519,H,3744 - DAD5- NBC/MSNBC
| > | > 15=11530,H,6111
| > | > 16=11534,H,15000
| > | >
| > | > 18=11568,H,3426 - BYU
| > | >
| > | > 20=11630,H,1250
| > | > 21=11632,H,1250
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > 25=12577,H,13021 - ADTH gone
| > | >
| > | > 27=12594,H,6510
| > | > 28=12595,H,31830
| > | > 29=12608,H,19277 - ADTH - VOA / Persian / PowerTV /
MAC /
| > | > TZUCHI
| > | > 30=12616,H,6510
| > | > 31=12643,H,3256
| > | >
| > | > 33=12733,H,1400
| > | >
| > | > ; [ feed frequencies by satelliweb.com (c)
| > 2003-11-05
| > | > 21:29:34 ]
| > | >
| > | > 39=11520,H,3745
| > | > 40=11525,H,1500 - DAD4 - not in use for a month
| > | > 41=11530,H,6111
| > | > 42=11566,H,3425
| > | >
| > | > 45=11648,H,6620
| > | >
| > | > 47=11669,H,5632
| > | >
| > | > 49=11690,H,6620
| > | >
| > | > 51=12595,H,6510
| > | >
| > | > ; [ downloaded from www.kingofsat.net (c)
2003-11-05
| > | > 21:29:34 ]
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

[Rob MacMillan]

"Donaldson-Selby Gavin" <keen-***@telkomsa.net> wrote in
message news:boc64q$auj$***@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
| I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.
|
| Gavin
|

There definitely was something there, as I'm getting no signal at
all now. The SR may have been 1500 FEC 3/4 /(Was getting EB/No
35%, but no lock). I get about 40% BER for DAD-5 (11518H 3745) on
a good day.

Rob

[Donaldson-Selby Gavin]

Checked again today Thursday 8.54 pm - still nothing.

Gavin

Post by Rob MacMillan
| I took a look (Thurday 2.54 am) - saw nothing.
|
| Gavin
|
There definitely was something there, as I'm getting no signal at
all now. The SR may have been 1500 FEC 3/4 /(Was getting EB/No
35%, but no lock). I get about 40% BER for DAD-5 (11518H 3745) on
a good day.
Rob